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OMG! UBUNTU!: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - A Guided Tour

  • Knownhuman · 2 months ago
    The leap from 9.04 to 9.10 is fantastic. I've been running the standard RC on my laptop and it's miles above the Ubuntu Studio install on my office computer. Can't wait for the official release. I am literally counting down the days.
  • Jens Wedel · 2 months ago
    "Fast startups & Faster shutdowns
    You've heard the hype but see for yourself: Ubuntu starts up faster than ever on most systems. Shutting down takes even less time – typically just a second or two!"

    This is simply not true. Ubuntu forums is floating with bad boot times which is twice as lond as jaunty.
  • Heartsmagic · 2 months ago
    You can't say "simply not true". Of course there could be users who has boot time problems. But, most of us "simply" see that boot time is really awsome and shutting down is even better.
  • Dragos · 2 months ago
    Agree with you. It boots in 16 seconds for me.

    The only thing I don't understand is how can I have the time and date display in two rows, like in the screenshot above :/
  • toeknee · 2 months ago
    I also cannot make my time and date appear as in the screen shots, very disappointing :(
  • Fede · 1 month ago
  • kinesthesia · 2 months ago
    I have to agree here. I tried out the RC yesterday and I've since switched back to Jaunty for a couple of different reasons, one of them being that Karmic actually increased my boot time. They did add the 'on most systems' so it's not guaranteed to boot up faster on ALL systems, but it's a little disappointing.

    Other reasons I downgraded were poor b43 speeds for my wireless (Jaunty lets my b4311 wireless card work with the proprietary drivers as soon as they're installed), broken hibernate function (it would go to 'waking up' and just hang on a blank screen), and for some reason Docky refused to install and Gnome Do caused Xorg to freeze if I dragged and dropped something in a certain way, forcing me to do a hard reset.

    Karmic is really nice but until these problems are fixed I'll stick with what works for me.
  • Giorg · 2 months ago
    the first screenshot isn't actually the default desktop... It's missing launchers right beside the menu, the clock is modified and it's using a different font from the default one. Besides this, great article!
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Oops! Well spotted!

    I use/take all my own screenshots and having used Karmic for an age now i'd somewhat forgotton how to "put it back" properly.

    I'll amend right away!
  • che · 2 months ago
    wonderful job
    just awesome
  • Manolito · 2 months ago
    And you still require a wired internet connection to install it... My brother in law tried to install Ubuntu twice (8.04 and 9.04) and he just couldn't because he only has access to a wifi connection. If you don't have access to Internet... how do you download the drivers for the wifi card?

    He will never try again and I saddly had to reccomended him to forget about Ubuntu and go ahead with W7. What a shame.
  • phro · 2 months ago
    What? I haven't used a wired Internet connection for years, and I've been using Ubuntu exclusively or on dual boot for over a year...

    What, exactly, did he try to do to install it???

    Just download the iso, burn it to a CDR and go...
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Karmic has been the second release where my wifi works out of the box, so i'm not too sure what the original poster means either? Perhaps they're talking about a manually distribution upgrade?
  • kinesthesia · 2 months ago
    He's probably using a wifi card that needs the b43 proprietary drivers, as I am. It's a little annoying but that's the price I pay for having a pretty naff wireless card (broadcom 4311).
  • Manolito · 1 month ago
    What? What... what? Good for you if you have wi-fi out of the box. Others don't. Simple as that. Of course you can install Ubuntu... but what do you want a OS without Internet for? Maybe you don't need it. Others do.
  • ahalliwell · 1 month ago
    When my wifi card wasn't supported (it is now), I would install ndiswrapper from the live cd, and have the windows driver for my card on a flash drive. This way, I wouldn't have to connect to a repository to download packages. Sure, I had to use another computer (ONCE), but when I downloaded the driver, I kept it in case I ever needed it again. My wireless wasn't supported out of the box in Windows either (and still isn't).
  • CC · 2 months ago
    Of course he'll still have to download many more drivers with Windows 7 and he'll likely find many "legacy" devices (cameras, scanners, printers) unsupported by Windows 7, and may run into our experience with Windows 7 crashing on 3 different "stock" computers from IBM, Dell, and HP. Yes, he might actually have to use a wired connection to get a wireless driver, but you'd have to do the same for ANY Windows 7 driver you needed.
  • Manolito · 1 month ago
    Well, I don't see the problem if you need to download docens of drivers... as long as the wi-fi works in the first place.
  • cloudscream · 2 months ago
    ...and network manager applet still doesn't work for me. I still use pppoeconf to connect to the internet.
  • Vadi · 2 months ago
    Can UbuntuOne do 'public links' now?
  • sharkbait · 2 months ago
    I don't think it currently can. IMO, that is the #1 thing Dropbox has over UbuntuOne. As soon as it's possible and easy to do that in UbuntuOne, I'm switching. :)
  • Vadi · 2 months ago
    Same. Thanks for the info.
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Ditto! I'll find out when that's coming, actually...
  • Steve · 2 months ago
    "the new Ubuntu splash screen. A visually stunning success"

    Unless you have two screen, then "a total utter mess" would be a better description. It should have been dumped, its just not ready for release.
  • Vadi · 2 months ago
    *in your opinion, which thankfully Ubuntu designers don't share.

    It's great.
  • Steve · 2 months ago
    "It's great", errr

    Its on the wrong screen (unlike the boot image and login prompt which get it right)
    It the wrong size, Its sized to the size of the primary display, on the secondary display, which means it either overlaps or doesn't fill the screen.

    It makes what should be a clean boot process into a mess, how can this be a step forward when the old process worked 100% correct?
  • raptor · 2 months ago
    where did got the shutter icon (karmic style) for the notification area?
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    It's a very dodgy .svg made by myself! I'm workong on a much nicer one currently which i'll post ASAP!
  • benjyacki · 2 months ago
    thanks for this resume!
    greets from Switzerland
  • runeks · 2 months ago
    About that XSplash splash screen. Does anyone else notice that the animation is choppy? Or am I the only one who has noticed this/is experiencing this?
    I know it's not really the biggest deal, but still, it's the first impression you get when Ubuntu is loading. For me, the animation is smooth and nice the first "sweap", and the second time it starts lagging while, seemingly, some processes load in the background. Sometimes a black rectangle replaces the animation entirely.
    Anyone else notice this?
  • e cigarette · 2 months ago
    Very cool. Can't wait for the release.
  • kris · 2 months ago
    An odd chocie perhaps

    typoe
  • TheHoldSteady · 2 months ago
    Job one: Remove all traces of Mono. Job two: install MonoNoNo.
  • kris · 2 months ago
    I wonder, does Empathy support Festival integration? One of the things I loved about Pidgin was not having to watch irc channels, but rather having them spoken out to me...
  • RichardLinx · 2 months ago
    While I like this review of the latest Ubuntu offering, I can't help but feel that this was unprofessionally written. You made many spelling errors and I'm not sure if this one was intentional or not, but you wrote "because" as "cos" which gives the impression that this was written by a fourteen year old. Hey, maybe you are 14 and that's OK. This is just meant as some constructive criticism.

    I hope to see more posts from you in the future, which are a little more professionally written in the future.

    Cheers.
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Haha if only i was fourteen again! I'm 21, so i guess i'm an "unprofessional" writer...

    As I've said to others before, this site is all written by one person (myself) and sadly i don't have the time to check every spelling, inflection or abbreviation nor scour for every grammatical error in a post AND get it published.

    I do check and re-check (obviously) but being the author I miss things due to writing it. ("fresh eyes" and all that.) This isn't Gizmodo - no-one's getting paid here so I apologise if one article is brought down for you based on one abbreviation, but i simply don't have time to write the posts, check them, check them again and again and post. (As well as ensuring i find enough "news" for the next post and find time to eat, etc...)

  • Karl · 2 months ago
    d0od-

    That's some serious patience you must have. Most people would have just called that guy a Gobstopper and been done with it.

    Your professionalism in handling the situation means you're mature enough to do a great job on this site. Chronological age be damned, good job.
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Thanks! It must be militant condescending grammar police day or something because the guy above made the 7th "spellingz errur" comment today alone. I don't mind really, just people need to keep in mind that they're not done on purpose and it is only myself posting everything - so these thins do happen!

    I'm pretty sure I've never called anyone a gobstopper, btw but now i -really- want to! =P
  • Majd Mash · 2 months ago
    Dude, your posts are just amazing the way they are!! Keep it up, you are making a great blog about Ubuntu that is unlike other blogs around ;)

    Greetings from Dubai.
  • RichardLinx · 1 month ago
    Hey don't get me wrong, I liked the post. I haven't tried out any of the 9.10 Alphas or the RC so I didn't know what it had to offer. Your post informed me about what was new, it was actually very useful to me. I guess some of the forums I frequent are full of "grammar nazi's" so I picked up the habit.

    The "cos" really did get to me that day for some reason.

    I'll be frequenting this site more often and make sure the next time I see a spelling error (If I do) I'll just say something along the lines of "dude, you made a mistake here" (Unless you for some bizarre reason don't want spelling mistakes pointed out)

    Cheers, Richard.

    Edit: I forgot to mention I found this website through Digg so I had no way of knowing it was maintained by a single person.
  • Zac · 2 months ago
    Well second best at least. :)

    The best is Ubuntu 8.04 :) Been running this for well over a year, it's my operating system I depend on from web surfing to important memories and documents.

    I am liking what's in Ubuntu 9.10 so I'll try the liveCD and may install it on my netbook which has Ubuntu 9.04 at the moment. Some of the important changes introduced here are a stepping stone to their goals. For example, the Software Centre is not yet full featured the way it should be but this is a step towards that. I wouldn't mind more radical changes though so it can break through into mainstream and onto shop floors.

    Computer Janitor not for me also. If I don't want to see a particular item in the menu and just Edit Menu and untick it. What I can't see won't bother me.
  • SadistiX · 2 months ago
    It appears Software Centre STILL doesnt have an App Store-like interface...No "staff" pics, Most recently updated, Most popular, etc ZZZZZZ
    those would have REALLY helped newbie users setup their Ubuntu. a lot of Linux replacements have funny names so recommendations will be a great help
  • Tom Cowell · 2 months ago
    This is a fair point. I know that there is a lot planned for the store, like eventually bringing in ratings, and bringing in the update manager and synaptic into all one place, maybe we'll see those features in 10.04!
  • Sam Worthington · 2 months ago
    I've got dual boot Win7/ubuntu. I'll be deleting ubuntu to do a clean install, How do I get Grub2 to install?
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Hmm.. I'd imagine it'd blitz and rewrite itself so you'd get Grub2.
  • AndrewNoNumbers · 2 months ago
    Nice walkthrough, I'm very excited (haven't tried Karmic at all yet).

    2 things I'm wondering about:
    What the difference between the new Palimpsest Disk Utility and the current Partition Editor?
    How is it going to go about upgrading my ext3 to ext4?
  • Name · 2 months ago
    but does it work with real PC's that have nvidia 8500 cards and 2 monitors?
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    I use a Nvidia 8500 and 2 monitors so, YEs! It does!
  • Owaeis · 2 months ago
    OMG! awesome! :D
  • reak · 2 months ago
    out of curiosity, what is the font used in the Network Manager screenshot_134.png. Does it come by default?
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Sadly no. They still insist on that very w i d e sans font. I use Droid Sans which is utterly gorgeous. It's in the repo's too!

    sudo apt-get install ttf-droid
  • toeknee · 2 months ago
    how do I change the network manager font?
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    It uses your system fonts so whatever you set your fonts to in System > Appearance > Fonts is what NMapplet will user. :)
  • foo · 2 months ago
    I took some notes during the installation of Ubuntu 9.10 RC, about what could be improved.

    1) Resize partition took too long, and didn't provide visual feedback of the progress. (The progress bar just stalled for several minutes). The progress bar should have smaller steps and provide information about any problems it could be finding.

    2) The last step of the installation displayed too much information about files being removed. That's useless for most users. It should just say "Removing installation files" and proceed.

    3) I loved the new boot up splash screen. However, the traditional Ubuntu start sound (drums and forrest sounds) don't match the modern look. I'd love if Ubuntu just adopted an overall modern look.

    4) I was asked to install missing English translations files on first login. WTF?

    5) Ubuntu Software Center offers too many options. It should list no more than the top-10 softwares in each department, and put the others in sub-departments. It would also be nice to have a "Recommended" department, where we would have the all the proprietary add-ons.

    Well, that's my 2 cents.

    Thanks for the great work, Ubuntu community!
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    Interesting notes!

    When you say resizing the partition took too long are you talking the time it took to physically resize or the time it took to "sort out" resizing via the options etc?

    Regarding those blasted sounds - there was talk of replacing them but for whatever reason they didn't. Some sounds were rejected for sounding "too modern"... which makes you wonder what they're going for! We held a poll here which was barn-stormingly in favour of new sounds.

    BEcause the software centre shall (in two releases time) fully replace add/remove, synaptic, update manager etc it's yet to find it's "feet" as it were in displaying options. It's done an okay job so far - particularly in ensuring there are screenshots available for the app you want to install. The amount of times i'd installed a "usable and modern" application only to find it visually resembling a DoS app...

    Great points though and most, afaik, that the community are keen to solve!
  • maquinadecafe · 2 months ago
    Very good job !
    Looking forward for the final release !
    Thank you.
  • jcaputo · 2 months ago
    Wondering about Ubuntu One: You reported "Drop some files into your UbuntuOne folder, sync and then access them from any other computer - anywhere anytime!" Any computer? I understood you could use it with Karmic only and could not use Intrepid or Windows for example.
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    You can use the web interface to access them from any computer :)
  • Angelos Georgalas · 2 months ago
    4 days away from the future :-)
  • d0od · 2 months ago
    What an epic way to put it... =P
  • Julian · 2 months ago
    I find the new look quite disappointing. While it's trivial to change to something more contemporary/slick (like the window theme you used in the last screenshot) I think the artists have fallen short of excellence, yet again.

    A few comments:

    * Does the little wart-like dot on the left end of the default window title theme serve any purpose that couldn't be more elegantly incorporated into a right-mouse-button event?

    * The Ubuntu Logo should have remained 'flat' rather than adopting this 2.5d graphic. It's less iconic and looks oddly like sausages-and-bacon..

    * The background image is far too bright and ulterior to the colour palette of the theme more generally. It is not 'background' enough. Rather it competes for the foreground.

    * Does the help icon need to be a blue disk with a question mark in it? Can't it be a little more subtle? Right now it competes in the colour-space of the other icons. Blue is also opposite to orange and so fights against the desktop.

    * The decorators on the new icon set appear to come from different designers and lack polish. Especially awful is the folder for Music. They all stand out far too much over the folder below as though stuck-on rather than a part of the folder they represent.

    Mark makes the final decision with the default theme. I feel the man, for all his talents, is doing harm in this where aesthetics of this great OS is concerned. He ought to step out and resource some of the talent on the Ubuntu Art list. Either that leave it entirely upto a third-party professional design company to resolve these inconsistencies.

    Cheers.
  • inertz · 2 months ago
    Hope it wont freeze my laptop.
  • davidsmeaton · 2 months ago
    hey mate

    very nice blog and great intro to karmic koala. i have done a few test runs on my notebook and i have to say that it's not up to par just yet. especially the UNR version. i had graphics problems and (worst of all) not network, which makes updating and fixing a pain in the bunghole.

    but i'm sure they'll get it together soon. i live by the 100% open source rule and ubuntu is the core of that philosophy.

    btw, don't worry about the grammar nazis. anyone who gets online and posts comments about spelling mistakes is an absolute womble.

    cheers

    david
    www.davidsmeaton.com
  • sharali · 2 months ago
    A nice (useful) presentation
  • Daniel Añez Scott · 2 months ago
    this is the best review i've seen of ubuntu karmic koala! It should be the default at ubuntu,com xD
  • siriandor · 1 month ago
    What does the encryption of the home partition exactly? I mounted an already existent /home during installation and checked this option ;b

    There were no detailed informations available.
  • scouser73 · 1 month ago
    The first thing i always do is to edit the menus, I've come unstuck before with Computer Janitor when I had Jaunty. Karmic is excellent and the devs need a big pat on the back for the work they've done. I've noticed that there isn't a faster start time for me on Karmic, but that's not so much of a problem. As for the shut down times, that was blisteringly fast.
  • Ian D. Miller · 1 month ago
    One of the coolest features that isn't getting much press is just HOW UbuntuOne is getting used in the OS. Evolution contacts are auto-synced to UbuntuOne and Tomboy Notes now has an option to auto-sync to UbuntuOne. For me, that's huge. Keeping synced Tomboy Notes across my work and home computers is the bees knees!
  • Dean Soto · 1 month ago
    Oooh, that's really cool. I'd imagine using dropbox and UbuntuOne would be cool too. I don't really like evolution and I'm waiting for TB3, but I use Tomboy a lot. Thanks for mentioning this!
  • C. B. · 1 month ago
    Worst. Ubuntu. Ever. This is bloated with crap I don't need, hideous, removed some stuff that was good, (Ekiga wasn't though, Pidgin was) and the changes only benefit the social. Either Xubuntu or Debian. No Ubuntu with GNOME. (unless they make a slim version)
  • jopplin · 1 month ago
    Where do i find the font information window?
  • rainyday · 1 month ago
    enough with the eye candy. lets talk about real features we all need, shall we..

    is there any internet sharing option like OSX or Windows in this edition? fingerprint / face detection support? any new changes / improvement on networking and file sharing? also support for icon in executable file like OSX/WINDOWS? automatic icon changing with changing file association? folder and multiple file send/receive support via bluetooth? any file or folder create/ rename/ move /copy / delete support in "Open File" dialogue box ? a modified nautilus that shows "computer:///" as the top most and default location rather than "/" (root filesystem) ? folder color option (an alternative to emblems) ? improved / speedier file copy operation in flash drives?
  • Name · 1 month ago
    Sounds like eye candy to me
  • Fonix · 1 month ago
    ye ubuntu is all very well and it means to do good, but some basics are always screwed up for me when i install ubuntu, namely gfx drivers (although easy to fix) sound drivers (havnt found a fix yet) and network. Somehow without fail there will be something wrong with those. i have a pretty standard setup at home, and a pretty standard pc set (maybe the gtx 275 drivers didnt get detect properly cuz its pretty new) but the other stuff in my pc is not exactly the newest tech... so why is it so broken :(. i installed kde as well which i like alot, but the network is probably even more screwed up lol :/. but i must say its a nice improvement over the last versions
  • Saji N · 1 month ago
    Very good review.. Covers almost everything.. I'm also using Ubuntu 9.10 now...
  • Danesh Manoharan · 1 month ago
    Very nice!! Loving the new karmic koala... significant improvement
  • babydoll25 · 1 month ago
    I want it!!! I have an acer netbook with no optical drive, running win xp, howcan I install this wonderful new OS?
  • d0od · 1 month ago
  • Guest · 1 month ago
    If Ubuntu and Firefox (or any browser in Ubuntu) would finally manage to produce "font-wise" a sleek looking system as I'm capable of producing on an old Windows XP-machine I'd be happy. This may not be directly Ubuntu's fault, but all internet browsers have ugly fonts (settings don't seem to have an effect and yes I've followed font guides on the net).

    E.g. Calibri with ClearType smoothing on Ubuntu within all applications and I'm happy.

    Examples of nice font reproduction throughout the whole system:
    http://savouryspacemonkey.deviantart.com/art/Cl...
    http://syfo.deviantart.com/art/Orange-Glow-1372... (maybe nsfw)

    E.g. www.aqua-soft.org-forums (thread Desktop '09) has plenty of other good examples.
  • d0od · 1 month ago
    That is specifically Firefox's issue - it determines its own font settings and doesn't abide by those set by the system.

    Chrome doesn't have this issue.
  • Guest · 1 month ago
    Ok - I completely forgot about Google Chrome! I've only tested Firefox, Swiftweasel, Swiftfox, the default one and Opera. I don't like Opera's interface and it doesn't have Xmarks so I thought I'd be out of options.

    So thanks for the hint - let's see if Chrome satisfies my "eyecandy" needs. Does Chrome have similar hanging issues (always after a certain amount of surfing the whole computer not just the browser randomly hangs at (flash? and maybe other) websites) as Firefox and Opera seem to have?
  • nivek1385 · 1 month ago
    As much as I enjoy using the various *buntus, I do have to say that, at least for me, Karmic has far from helped boot times. Prior to upgrading Jaunty to Karmic, my boottimes were anywhere from 19 seconds to 32 seconds, usually ending up around 22-23 seconds. This is just power on to login screen. Since the upgrade, my initial boot was 3 MINUTES and 24 seconds. That's 9 times my usual boot time and more than 6 times my previous max boot time (even with a fsck!). Granted, I have since trimmed some of the new services that I find unnecessary and have trimmed it down to 1:28 and 1:24 in my last two boots. I had not profiled by boot with the last Jaunty kernel I was running (2.6.28-16 if memory serves) and have not profiled Karmic yet, but we'll see how much that helps.
  • Paul · 2 weeks ago
    I'm a Mac user but run a Linux Mint 8 media server off of an Acer Veriton Nettop and XBMC.

    I do get excited whenever doing a fresh install, this blog post makes me want to format and start again.