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Maybe when it'll work on my comp I'll give it a go live :)
How about instead of writing malicious code and or viruses, how about you help to fix some of the obvious problems in Ubuntu. Windows, Ubuntu and Leopard all have there ups and downs. So stop saying windows got everything from Linux, It was Windows that started desktop revolution in the first place. (even though im not a fan of windows)
In my view, the real desktop revolution was the introduction of Free and Open Source Software. There is nothing to be compared a commercial program (or an Operating System) that belongs to a company and it's code is only known to this company's Engineers, with an OS that belongs to the public, and everyone can help it's development.
Also, Microsoft was the one that copied to Windows whatever "revolutionary" feature was introduced by Linux or MacOS in the first place.
http://cairoshell.com/
Gnome just got ripped a new one
Do you think we could talk the devs into porting it to Linux?
So are these just mockups provided by the community or a serious push by GNOME towards innovation?
Is it possible to make them bigger in the future?
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02bhwofEqw @ 5:15
how will compiz integrate into this?
looks shiny and squeaky clean.
and will you be able to theme it?
Gnome as usual will provide very limited configuration options and restrict the freedom of the user.
GNOME 2 doesn't include or "work with" Compiz, either. It includes Metacity. How do you then use Compiz? You replace Metacity with Compiz. That breaks a few things but there are alternatives to those as well.
As for source code, that's such a lame excuse. I'm all for open source. I think it's great, but people use it as a catch-all excuse for doing a poor job. Don't like the way this program works? Patch it! Most Linux users these days are not developers. They don't have the ability to tweak the source code. They depend on upstream, and all they can really do is raise a little hell when things go wrong.
Hey can somebody help me? I downloaded "gnome-shell" in Karmic but I can't use it. I tried using the "sessions" tab in the GDM but it doesn't give me the option. I also tried the "new session" button on the Fast User Switch Applet but it logs out and logs in again without going to the GDM.
It might be an Alpha Bug thingie but any help would be great.
Thank's!!!
Leave the terminal open while trying it out. Once you are done trying it out, return to the terminal window, and hit Ctrl+C to kill the process. That will start metacity again. You can then press Alt+F2 and run compiz --replace if you were using compiz.
Hope that helps
Gnome 3 would be the perfect time to include Gnome Do, Global Menu, Gloobus (get some devs over there, quick!) and Screenlets, but as far as I know, none of these are showing up. AFAIK, Gnome devs are pretty adamant about not including a dock.
I'm predicting I'll either love Gnome 3 or switch to KDE full time. 4.4 looks like a promising release (but what release in the 4.x series hasn't?)
Could it really be that much more effort than the shell?
Microsoft will copy it soon, just wait and see. Ballmer hasn't had an original thought in his entire life.
Heavy development in Gnome-shell and vast user adoption will make this truly a dominating OS, hopefully, maybe, ya think?
gnome is narrow minded as usual.
A futile effort indeed. Even Apple added "spaces" to OSX. After messing with this "new" desktop metaphor for ages. (Just in case you're to retarded to get it, they're moving in the opposite direction)
You can actually have 1 application per desktop. Why the fuck would one want to mess with 8 applications on one screen, when the push of a button, has the other application readily available.
By all means, create something cool and useful. Just because you haven't had it before though, doesn't make it neither. Start spending your efforts elsewhere, ASAP.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
Gnome-Shell is a composition manager on its own with its own effects. Wo wonder they Compiz and Gnome-Shell don't play together.
RT
www.real-privacy.net.tc
there's a ppa.
You can also compile from source (which has been more reliable for me) from here..
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
@Mel - To activate the source compiled version, follow the instructions.
To activate the one from repos "gnome-shell --replace"
Now its Windows 7. Good job.
BTW, 1998 called.. They want to know what the Linux desktop market share is.
Windows end-user usability isn't what sucks about Windows. Windows 7 is pretty damned impressive when it comes to UI design. I think a re-work of Gnome 2 would suffice. Pretty much, emulate Windows 7 shell design, then improve on that.
Linux Mint + Windows 7 taskbar + Compiz not sucking ass with videos, games and tooltips = Linux Desktop
Here are two simple ideas that would have been more welcome and helpful to users:
http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Nautilus-...
http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Pa...
lets start bashing, shal we ?
the "activities" menu. pretty much just vistas start menu in a drop-down fashion, like the apple menu on OS X, just a lot more visualy poluted, and if i know gnome developers, it'll have very few options for customization, if any.
the bar at the top is another thing. first, it steals screen real estate. not a big deal when you have a large display that can exibit 1024 lines, but it's a serious problem on netbooks with their tiny screens. and yes, netbooks is _exactly_ where linux has it's biggest chance to shine. other desktops have wide taskbars at the botton, but they usualy gives the option to hide or cover it. second, if that bar will stay there all the time, stealing space, just make it the menu bar for every GTK application, like mac os has been doing since day one. having the bar there, then another menu bar on each app windows is a waste os space. serious drawback on small screens.
and last but not least, reviewers and gnome team hardly ever release screenshots showing the file picker and/or print dialog before the release. what was atrocious on gnome 1.4x became awfull on 2.x series. i'm seriously losing hope that they'll ever get that part of the desktop correctly.
finally, most of their problems comes from not wanting to be an exact windows clone, or OS X clone or anything, so they end up mixing and matching things from several sources, but usually just half-way. sorry guys, but I'll stick to KDE apps and windowmaker desktop for the foreseable future.
I don't care for the dark theme as well, but there will be options available.
I also find it inefficient to have words in the panel, for eg I have replaced Application/Places/System with just the Ubuntu icon for a drop down menu. And in these examples I would replace the Activities word with a Ubuntu icon.
Anyway progress is happening. Nice work.
And also, it would be great if the application launcher would be as good as gnome-do, integrating with other apps.
Maybe, i dont like so much some graphics on it, but i dont think that will be a problem. Just a detail. :)
http://www.todosmenostu.es/2009/09/23/hoy-sale-...
I doubt Mutter will be able to truly compete. One of the things people love about Compiz is the range of options. You may want a cube, or a wall. You may want windows that pop up, beam up, swing into view, are magicked into existence, and disappear in much the same or a completely different manner. You may want to blur all but the current window, or apply ever increasing transparency as windows are denied focus. You may want to switch windows with cover flow, a shift switcher, a ring switcher, or a good ol' fashioned switched with live thumbnails. Compiz made the desktop cool, and uniquely yours.
Now, consider the configurability of most Gnome apps. Do you really think they're going to allow you the same level of freedom that Compiz does? I think we'll be lucky to get wobbly windows.
Hence, it radically changes the way we use the applications (the above far left) and the way we use the different panels (the below far right).
Not a bad thing after all and if we combine this with a much better and quicker search function then we have something indeed to anticipate!
The music widget doesn't (sadly) come with gnome-shell or Karmic but it's very easy to install. It's called CoverGloobus and i've written about it before @ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/09/7-nowplaying...